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Avenger Related => Technical => Topic started by: old white 73 on January 07, 2017, 05:49:40 PM

Title: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: old white 73 on January 07, 2017, 05:49:40 PM
Hi, blown another front shockie, was a N.O.S chucked in about a year or so old. Rather than just put the same in, what other options are there. Not looking to lower it much if at all as that presents ground clearance issues & the closest motorway is 2 1/2hrs away @ Dunedin

Looking at better inserts- bilstiens, kyb or anything else that might fit, or should i go with coil overs. 

Hopefully i can get a strut gutted in time to catch a ride to Dunedin to get measured for a bilstein on monday

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: TheMechanicnz on January 07, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
Bilsteins are good, I'm running bilsteins with progressive valving in them, Chris Alexander at suspension tech did them for me, just running inserts in the front and new shocks in the rear.
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: old white 73 on January 07, 2017, 08:52:08 PM
Dropped him a line in a trademe auction, said he'd done an avenger recently, will have to take the struts out of the car & send them up as they're the best/tidyest pair i've got. While i'm at it i'll change the crossmember & sort the steering rack.

Get a bush kit for the back & we're sorted.

Shame to put all these good bits in such a shitty looking hack but cant start the rebuild til another job gets done 1st
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: TheMechanicnz on January 07, 2017, 10:20:18 PM
He's really good to deal with, I took my car to him and he did my whole setup, new shocks and urethane bushes all around.i also saw he setup Graeme Bjerrings v8 avenger
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: avengertiger on January 07, 2017, 11:17:53 PM
can you remember what a set of bilstien inserts cost you? and did he tell you what damping rate they were.
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: TheMechanicnz on January 07, 2017, 11:54:23 PM
Can't remember any of that sorry, was 4 years ago. All I remember is it was setup for a Targa car I'm running 205/60/13 all round and it handles amazing and sticks to the road  like glue.
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: old white 73 on January 08, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
Gunna ring Chris monday morning
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: old white 73 on January 10, 2017, 11:47:47 PM
Struts are out, wrapped & ready to ship,  will come back revalved to suit & a pair of rear shocks as well.
While in bits, new tie rod end, brake pads, (w.o.f man missed them) fix rack & an engine mount.

So...... anyone know the best place to get a bush kit for the back end? No point doing 1/2 a job, should make a huge difference next time at teretonga




Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: TheMechanicnz on January 11, 2017, 08:26:53 AM
If you're going urethane bushings I think I got mine from Aussie which was the cheapest around $300 I think?
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: old white 73 on January 27, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
For those who want to know, got a txt from Chris saying the 4 shocks are done & the bill is $1786.00, gst & freight included.
I asked for a setup suitable for hillclimb/sprints/fast road work, Chris reckoned judging by the witness marks from the front coils binding maybe rally spec would be better. When i get them in i'll run it down a couple of favourite backroads - should be fun
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: JoKer on January 28, 2017, 03:49:17 PM
f

litteraly just been told my rear shocks are too long (bad things might happen)

plan a is try the shocks that matched the dif (recent swap) or follow this order wit hone of my own (who needs a root canal anyway)
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: oldschool on January 28, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
The KYB 343147 (Toyota Corona RT Rear Shock) is a bolt on replacement...

https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/kyb-343147/overview/ (https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/kyb-343147/overview/)
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: JoKer on January 29, 2017, 09:20:30 AM
ace! was kinda hoping that info would pop up
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: old white 73 on March 24, 2017, 12:25:45 PM
Verdicts in, been driving round town & did an oldschool run to ranfurly as well. Round town its abit too firm for the goat tracks that pass for streets...... on open road in the twisty stuff its great! Works way better in gravel too.

Front springs are probably abit on the soft side for the shocks, will look at changing them sometime.
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: NitroFoskal on May 30, 2017, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: oldschool on January 28, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
The KYB 343147 (Toyota Corona RT Rear Shock) is a bolt on replacement...

https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/kyb-343147/overview/ (https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/kyb-343147/overview/)


Just need a confirmation before I order them.
This KYB 343147 shock absorbers are bolt on fit for avenger front absorbers ?
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: TheMechanicnz on May 31, 2017, 06:11:41 AM
Direct replacement for the rear shock absorbers, just need to swap the top hat around with the original.
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: JoKer on May 31, 2017, 07:27:16 AM
pics? top hat? I'm used to the term in Subaru's and how you do that to them but yeah..

edit ahh do they just bolt in?

Quote from: JoKer on February 26, 2017, 06:34:01 PM
$52 for 12 months rego!

also swapped out the rear shocks as the ones in the car were not keeping the springs captive

(https://instagram.fakl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/16788656_163591137482945_4382535241009463296_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: TheMechanicnz on May 31, 2017, 07:45:04 AM
Basically just needs the mounting plate from the top of the original shock removed and swapped onto the new shock, just looking at photos and not going from experience.
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: NitroFoskal on May 31, 2017, 07:49:36 AM
OK, thanks.
Is there some alternative for front shock absorbers ?
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: TheMechanicnz on May 31, 2017, 08:48:23 AM
Not that i am aware of, i could be wrong though as i have not had to look. I got my shocks upgraded to bilsteins with progressive valving through Chris Alexander at Suspension tech karaka, for the front it was just the insert that was changed. He would be a good place to start as he should be able to match somthing up for you or refurb your current inserts.
Title: Re: Alternative shock absorber options?
Post by: oldschool on May 31, 2017, 09:39:46 AM
I have New Old Stock front shock (inserts) on Trademe...http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/chrysler/suspension/auction-1332722557.htm (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/chrysler/suspension/auction-1332722557.htm)