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Avenger Related => Technical => Topic started by: TheMechanicnz on August 18, 2016, 06:58:51 PM

Title: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: TheMechanicnz on August 18, 2016, 06:58:51 PM
Hi all, curious as to what clutch and release bearing setup is used in the five speed conversion with the type 9. I've been doing some work on mine again and am now needing to sort the pivot point.
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: oldschool on August 20, 2016, 05:48:00 PM
You use an Avenger clutch, release bearing, fork and cable...will need to make a gearbox spacer, fit a pivot, cut a slot for the fork and make a cable retainer if you're using an auto bell housing.
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: TheMechanicnz on August 20, 2016, 08:18:58 PM
I've fabricated my own bellhousing, so it's just the pivot point I'll need. How much power is the orignal clutch good for? And are there any aftermarket heavy duty clutches that will fit them?
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: oldschool on August 21, 2016, 12:08:53 AM
Can't use your existing pivot point? The Avenger uses the same 190mm pressure plate as an Escort 1600 OHV along with a 23 spline 190mm clutch plate..lots of Escort race/rally ones available searching online.
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: TheMechanicnz on August 21, 2016, 11:22:43 AM
Oh wow, some good info on the clutch there. I'll just make the pivot the same as the original then.
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: TheMechanicnz on August 21, 2016, 05:37:00 PM
http://m.imgur.com/a/poZ49 (http://m.imgur.com/a/poZ49)

Here's a few pics as to where I'm at.
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: oldschool on August 23, 2016, 04:06:02 PM
It looks like the gear linkage hasn't been shortened? It needs to be about 75mm shorter to line up with the gear lever tunnel..otherwise the gear lever hits the handbrake!
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: JoKer on August 23, 2016, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: TheMechanicnz on August 20, 2016, 08:18:58 PM
I've fabricated my own bellhousing

hold the phone... explain please :P

(http://i.imgur.com/fjll0kg.jpg)

ahh ok I think i got it, cut down a Manuel box?

Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: TheMechanicnz on August 23, 2016, 07:28:50 PM
Yep, cut down welded it, then I line bored the spigot diameter to suit the Sierra box. Then marked out the holes. Easy as to do and cost me nothing. Other than $50 for an old gearbox.
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: TheMechanicnz on August 23, 2016, 07:31:56 PM
And no, still have not shortened the linkage yet. Still thinking of a better way to do it. not keen on cutting and welding it as it would distort the seal and bearing journals.
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: TheMechanicnz on August 27, 2016, 07:11:49 PM
Here's an update on where I'm at with the selector. (http://i.imgur.com/96f1ggE.webp)   (http://i.imgur.com/zA9LwpG.webp)
(http://i.imgur.com/ozoHLBF.webp)
(http://i.imgur.com/ctGDlcj.webp)
(http://i.imgur.com/7klFC0d.webp)
(http://i.imgur.com/sGB4AI5.webp)
(http://i.imgur.com/xIrxnxL.webp)
(http://i.imgur.com/OgzYM3X.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CcVR5wj.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: mechnowhiz on March 12, 2017, 08:59:51 AM
Hi take an Avenger 1600 block, bore to 90MM and fit SAAB 9.5 Aero pistons, fit SAAB 9.5 2.3  Aero turbocharger, air con compressor  boost to 24psi WOW

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/mechnowhiz/IMGP2145_zpsisscamzj.jpg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/mechnowhiz/media/IMGP2145_zpsisscamzj.jpg.html)

Make overdrive conversion

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/mechnowhiz/IMGP2026_zps7gqqfn93.jpg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/mechnowhiz/media/IMGP2026_zps7gqqfn93.jpg.html)

Keep breaking gear boxs so make type 9 bellhousing shorten gearchange and fit

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/mechnowhiz/Assy%201_zpsfxfw1tzu.jpg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/mechnowhiz/media/Assy%201_zpsfxfw1tzu.jpg.html)

Clitch slips badly, try a Ford 8.5 inch clutch..... Better but still slips so  Fit 2003 SAAB 9.3 Aero clutch (1" 23 splines same as Avenger) that will take 300hp... Sorted

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt5/mechnowhiz/IMGP2392_zpsja5auf9d.jpg) (http://s592.photobucket.com/user/mechnowhiz/media/IMGP2392_zpsja5auf9d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 5 Speed clutch
Post by: avenga on March 12, 2017, 11:42:57 PM
Nice! I have a type 9 gearbox on my Avenger but the stock clutch is fine with my 88HP :)

BTW, welcome to the forum.