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Title: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: projectavenger on October 16, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
Ok so ive finally got money together for the car.
Where do I start, where do I spend??
Ideas?
Im thinking a 1uz conversion and panel and paint keeping it original looking etc
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: JoKer on October 16, 2013, 03:21:03 PM
2J maybe? Link + tune/turbo, driveline 6 speed altezza stuff

or nissan route
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: projectavenger on October 16, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
Long term goal (when I find more money) is power/weight ratio of 1:1 so not really interested in SR etc but 2J would be a step in the right direction. Would it fit?? Pretty long motor.
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: avenga on October 16, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
2J would be pretty tight, as you said it is a pretty long engine.

have you seen my 1UZ conversion I am doing?

Avengers are about 850KG stock, so you would need to go for something with a turbo to get that sort of power. I know my 1UZ setup won't be getting anywhere near that but I have seen turbo 1UZ's at over 1000HP.
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: projectavenger on October 16, 2013, 04:24:51 PM
Yea Im looking at going down the same sort of route as you.
Sadly when it comes to doing the work myself, my time and skill set is rather limited! Which is never guna help my budget
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: avenga on October 16, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
Yup, it is pretty expensive doing conversions. so far in parts along mine has cost over $10k

engine $2000
Brand new gearbox $3500
Bellhousing $800
Hilux LSD $800
8 throttle bodies $1600
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: projectavenger on October 16, 2013, 04:39:17 PM
Now im worried about my 30 stretching!
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: avenga on October 16, 2013, 05:50:06 PM
Put it this way, I have spent well over 30k on my '75

It all depends on your budget and how much of it you do yourself. For me I don't really do any of the work on mine, except the planning. All the labour and stuff is done at Bygones, so yes it does cost but the finished project is a million times better than I could do myself.

I also tend to splash out on expensive things when they aren't really needed. Like I brought a brand new R154 gearbox from Toyota, I probably would have saved over $2k if I brought a second hand W55 off trademe.
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: Nikolai on October 17, 2013, 11:15:15 PM
Are you planning on going in straight-lines, or around corners? :D

You'll definitely need a full-cage I'd think at that kind of power, and chassis reinforcements! I think you've had a few issues with chassis flex Richard?
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: avenga on October 18, 2013, 12:47:21 AM
Yes, even with my little 1500 I am getting bad chassis flex. So yeah you will have to cage and reinforce your Avenger if you plan having that much power.

My V8 Avenger will be fully caged and reinforced.
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: JoKer on October 18, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
tube chassis? slip on body? spend $500 ship it down here and a guy i know will hot rod it/build something wild (he used to work at "The Surgery" in Wellington/youngun's Dad...
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: oldschool on October 18, 2013, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: avenga on October 18, 2013, 12:47:21 AM
Yes, even with my little 1500 I am getting bad chassis flex. So yeah you will have to cage and reinforce your Avenger if you plan having that much power.

My V8 Avenger will be fully caged and reinforced.

Unusual for a road going (non-racing) Avenger to crack around the A pillars like yours has done Richard. That's likely caused by the front springs being too hard, resulting in road shocks being transferred directly to the front body structure (forcing it to flex and crack) rather than being absorbed by the front suspension.
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: avenga on October 18, 2013, 01:20:33 PM
You have to have the hard springs though  ;) Why? Because racecar  8)

But seriously, Yes my suspension is a bit too hard, and yes I do push the little Avenger a bit hard in the windy stuff but my V8 will suffer much more abuse than my 1500.
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: projectavenger on October 18, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
Joker pm me with more info!
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: JoKer on October 18, 2013, 04:29:01 PM
http://www.avenger.co.nz/forum/index.php?topic=424 (http://www.avenger.co.nz/forum/index.php?topic=424)

althought he was daydreamign of a VN V6 power plant transplant last I mentioned this prject (keeping the Auto) LOL

Chris is in the top pic on that page (with one of his hotrods)

and his number is in this post

http://www.avenger.co.nz/forum/index.php?topic=424.msg7105#msg7105 (http://www.avenger.co.nz/forum/index.php?topic=424.msg7105#msg7105)

big bubble MKI Esky style flares/ big wheels all round? maybe even sticking with the avenger motor (something no one would expect) etc.
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: projectavenger on October 25, 2013, 10:19:40 AM
Avenger project is on long term hold or more likely for sale as I've brought a 66 Bonneville hardtop coupe. Not too sure what happened lol
Title: Re: 30g + 74 Avenger estate = ????
Post by: JoKer on October 25, 2013, 10:23:40 AM
hahaha not a bad choice LOL