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Avenger Related => General Avenger Discussion => Topic started by: 1300super on February 15, 2012, 07:30:35 PM

Title: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: 1300super on February 15, 2012, 07:30:35 PM
Spotted one of these on the net the other day, A Chrysler 180, it looks shockingly like a big Avenger, has anyone ever seen one?
(http://www.simca.ch/gallery/2008/09052008/1/173137.jpg)
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: azza1600 on February 15, 2012, 07:39:23 PM
Yep when I was in the UK, read about them in the book Cars of the Rootes group, interesting story
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: 1300super on February 15, 2012, 09:01:00 PM
I wonder why theres none here?
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: NZTiger on February 15, 2012, 11:41:17 PM
Todd's did import 1 for evaluation, white with a black vinyl roof if my memory is correct???. about a decade latter I found 1 at a wrecker in Porirua (different car I think...) I was keen on getting rear disc brakes (which is std mod on UK Avengers and Sunbeams) but it had been sitting on the ground to long and were very rusty.

It looks like the Avenger as it is the big brother coming from same designers, the suspension is the same frt & rr, just a bit bigger...
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: blekkja on February 16, 2012, 12:47:14 AM
Australia got them. Renamed it the Centura, stretched the nose and chucked a 245 in...

(http://pentastar.free.fr/Chrysler_fichier/Centura/centura%20jaune%20verte.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A23vcupZFls/TB92v0k6NcI/AAAAAAAAAI8/2kXQaYK175Y/s1600/n_a%5B10%5D.jpg)

Almost worth moving over for.
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: 1300super on February 16, 2012, 05:20:33 PM
I quite like them, the aussie one looks like a mini Valiant. I wonder what happened to the 1 Todd Motors imported?
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: Nikolai on February 16, 2012, 05:44:10 PM
Do I see turbo?
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: blekkja on February 16, 2012, 07:18:26 PM
Yeah, that is possibly not standard. It was the best photo showing a Hemi in what was recognisably the right car.
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: 1300super on February 16, 2012, 07:43:41 PM
Just need too find on in NZ now
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: Thomsler on July 21, 2012, 06:30:47 AM
My Chrysler 180  !!

http://youtu.be/xSi4SHbT1uQ
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: richt on July 21, 2012, 07:59:24 AM
they are just as rare over here there was loads of them in the seventies my dad thought they were great he owned loads my first car ride home from the maternity hospital was in one . they wernt a very good car by all accounts poor spanish build quality and no rust proofing, back brakes that siezed on and over heated if they wernt looked after regularly ,the early seventies cars wore camshafts out quickly , front wings rotted out within weeks of purchase . i restored one in 2003/4 for my dad after he managed to track one down , it was a lovely car once done it was a 1800 manual i spent many man hours fabricating panels and the screen surounds as it was well rotten ,it just got bad press to begin with and the damage was done there are supposedly only 12ish left in britain there have been a couple on uk ebay lately keep your eye out and get bidding they didnt go for much but the import cost might kill ya lol
rich
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: Thomsler on July 21, 2012, 09:42:48 AM
Good evening Ritch
The trouble finishing editing lines of Chrysler, is not just due to the non anti-corrosion, because I've had a version scheduled for release in Spain 1610 "2 liters" of 1978 and was flooded up to the waistline!
Although she remained well for years and I had to change all the seats and carpeting and leatherette trim the body did not move!
Until July 1973 the Chrysler were made ​​of a steel honorable and quality!
But production becomes very expensive for the limited sale was being done, we took the same quality of metal that Italian car! which we know all the disappointments of corrosion!
Then the appearance of vinyl houses also did not help our first Chrysler rotting roof!
And there it is mostly manufactured versions for France and Spain and which was of course a lot of 2-liter Chrysler returned as collateral for the vinyl roof coming off and we often repainted the roof of the car!
I am 32 years old and is that practitioners of the time told me and my father too!
Treatment anticorosion hollow corp was an option offered at the time and the Chrysler 2 liters of a friend has b?nificie against mine she is not anti-corrosion treatment and which do not leave too much t
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: avenga on July 21, 2012, 10:05:19 AM
Cool 180 Thomas!

We never got the Chrysler 180 in NZ but I always wanted one on the Australian 180's. They renamed them Centura and put a great big Hemi 245 4.0L straight 6 engine in them, it is a smaller version of the 265 4.3L Hemi I have in my Charger.
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: Thomsler on July 21, 2012, 10:09:43 AM
Avenga thank you,
I knew not where to put my presentation and Chrysler
in video it would be easier for me ^ ^

So you have a Load Even with the Centura! Cool!
You know in fact as close as Centura versions if I understand!
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: avenga on July 21, 2012, 10:18:05 AM
Feel free to make a thread in the Members Gallery section and tell us a bit more about your 180.
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: Thomsler on July 21, 2012, 10:19:40 AM
Ok no worries I will! thank you again!
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: Thomsler on July 21, 2012, 10:28:10 AM
Ok tomorrow I made ​​a presentation of my Chrysler in the appropriate section! ;)
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: richt on July 30, 2012, 08:15:11 AM
 if you go to www.racingsportscars.com and search chrysler 180 there is chrysler spains entrant to the 1977 world touring cars it is a blue and white 180 , if you click on touring cars in the left hand side column, then scroll down to 1977, then choose 18.9.1977 tourist trophy, then scroll down till you see it ,apparently powered by a 2litre 285 bhp formula 2 engine
i have a picture on my computer but copyright stops me putting it on dosent it

hope you find it
rich
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: JoKer on July 30, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
(http://www.allpar.com/images/chrysler/2-litre-cars.jpg)

http://www.allpar.com/cars/chrysler/180.html
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: JoKer on April 22, 2021, 10:28:50 AM
Discussion on the Old cars FB Group here : https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2995283237463012 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2995283237463012)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Chrysler_180_Barreiros_870.jpg/220px-Chrysler_180_Barreiros_870.jpg)

and for fun here's the Wiki link for more info : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_180 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_180)

QuoteThe Chrysler 180 was the base name for a series of large saloon cars produced by Chrysler Europe. Resulting from joining development efforts of Rootes Group and Simca, the car was produced from 1970 to 1975 in Poissy, France, and later in Chrysler's subsidiary Barreiros' factory in Spain. The Chrysler 180 was also the base for the medium-sized model built by Chrysler Australia, the Chrysler Centura.

Depending on engine employed, the cars were marketed as Chrysler 160/180/2 litre, and since 1977 in France and rest of continental Europe as Chrysler-Simca 1609/1610/2 litres. After the takeover of Chrysler Europe by PSA Peugeot Citro?n, the continental Europe models were renamed Talbot 1610/2 litres for 1979 and 1980 model years, after which the model was discontinued in Europe save for Spain, where a diesel model was sold until 1982.

The large, American-inspired Chrysler fared quite poorly in the principal European markets.[5] The replacement for the car was developed by Chrysler Europe under the codename C9 and was finally launched by PSA as the even more ill-fated Talbot Tagora.

QuoteRootes Group C Car
In 1966, under the direction of Roy Axe, the Head of Design, Rootes Group team started working on what was internally named the "C Car" (in reference to the smaller "B car", which became the Hillman Avenger), a new large car for Rootes to replace the Humber Hawk (and the imported Australian Chrysler Valiant, which served as a placeholder in Rootes' lineup after the Hawk's demise in 1967, without much success). In typical Rootes fashion, the plan was to market the car under three brands - the base version as Hillman, a 2.0-litre one as Sunbeam 2000, and atop the range a Humber Hawk with a 2.5-litre engine. A further development of the C Car with a stretched platform was planned, a "D Car", which was to replace the Humber Super Snipe
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: Talbot on September 28, 2021, 09:47:20 PM
Does the Big Avenger qualify for this forum?
Title: Re: The Chrysler 180 (Big Avenger)
Post by: avenga on September 28, 2021, 11:35:44 PM
Yes, totally.

We have had a few Big Avenger owners on here.

I figure it gets mistaken for an Avenger so often then why not count it :)