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Title: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on January 26, 2012, 10:43:02 PM
This is a thread to discus Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super (http://www.avenger.co.nz/forum/index.php?topic=275.0)
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on January 26, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
Awesome. I am really excited to see what Mal and the guys down at Bygone Autos can do with your SR20DE conversion.

Should be pretty mean when it is done.

His workshop will look pretty cool with all the Avengers down there because he still has both of mine.
Title: Re: My 1974, British, 1500 Super.
Post by: Mystro on January 31, 2012, 07:38:35 PM
Hey do u have any videos on youtube of the running SR20de? i would really like to see it
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on January 31, 2012, 09:21:37 PM
Conversion starts next Tuesday.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: blekkja on February 02, 2012, 11:39:18 PM
Quote from: avenga on January 26, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
Awesome. I am really excited to see what Mal and the guys down at Bygone Autos can do with your SR20DE conversion.

Should be pretty mean when it is done.

His workshop will look pretty cool with all the Avengers down there because he still has both of mine.

Did this poor bloke know what he was getting into when he first took your custom? Hahaha.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on February 03, 2012, 12:14:42 AM
Haha, yeah he has built some pretty crazy stuff for the Avengers now.

Nikolai is getting the same brake upgrade as they did on my '75 also.

They must either be really loving working on all these Avengers or really sick of them  ;D
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: blekkja on February 03, 2012, 10:09:19 AM
If I was in Auckland I would rock up there for the LOLs. I bet when they hear the OHV with it's tappets clicking like mad pulling in they will all run and hide.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on February 05, 2012, 10:11:22 AM
Quote from: blekkja on February 02, 2012, 11:39:18 PM
Did this poor bloke know what he was getting into when he first took your custom? Hahaha.

It's not actually a very difficult conversion at all, and like mentioned - since he's done the brakes before, that's much easier now, and the SR20 is very similarly sized, as is the gearbox.

The only headache will be the diff.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: blekkja on February 05, 2012, 12:35:39 PM
What diff are you using? Assuming the stock one isn't going to be able to handle the extra power...
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on February 05, 2012, 01:31:34 PM
Good question!

Yup, getting rid of the stock one but not sure what we will swap for.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: oldschool on February 05, 2012, 07:17:34 PM
The stock Avenger diffs are pretty strong - Richard said he never broke one during racing and the Avenger based Lotus Sunbeam had 150hp (road version) and 250hp (rally version) going through an Avenger diff and LSD diffs are still available new!!

Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on February 05, 2012, 07:44:08 PM
Yeah, I raced for 5 years or so on the same diff. Never had a problem.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: The_Jims on February 05, 2012, 07:52:35 PM
Yeah...If Richard's rally avenger can handle 5 years worth of good 250hp thrashing, I'm pretty sure you wont need to worry about changing the diff for an SR20! Lucky bugger!
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on February 05, 2012, 09:02:34 PM
Not sure my rally Avenger could pull 250HP, maybe minus 100HP from that and you would be in the ball park.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on February 05, 2012, 10:12:54 PM
Yeah, Richard's wasn't 250hp for sure :P

Hmm, funny because Mal reckoned it would blow up straight away if the wheels started spinning (which they will!)

You guys think a brand new Avenger LSD would work? Where would I get one ASAP?
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: blekkja on February 05, 2012, 10:53:31 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Sunbeam

"The resulting Sunbeam Lotus was based on the Sunbeam 1.6 GLS, but fitted with stiffer suspension, larger anti-roll bar and tougher gearbox casings. The drivetrain comprised an enlarged 2172 cc version of the Lotus 1973 cc 907 engine, a 16V slant four engine (the Sunbeam version being type 911, similar to Lotus 912), along with a ZF gearbox, both mounted in the car at Ludham airfield close to the Lotus facility in Hethel, Norfolk, where the almost-complete cars were shipped from Linwood. Final inspection, in turn, took place in Stoke, Coventry.[3] In road trim the Lotus type 911 engine produced 150 bhp (112 kW; 152 PS) at 5,750rpm and 150 lb
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on February 05, 2012, 11:30:41 PM
To be honest it's one of those do it once and do it right things - everything is going to out anyway, and something is making some pretty bad noise back there anyway - I suspect the driveshaft is misaligned or something as going faster than 60km results in a large, very loud annoying rumble under any sort of acceleration which isn't quite right!

Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: oldschool on February 06, 2012, 12:27:11 PM
Well if money is no object they're on e-bay....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quaife-Hillman-Avenger-LSD-ATB-Differential-/290622389653

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hillman-Avenger-GRIPPER-LSD-ultimate-PLATE-TYPE-diff-/270721476247

The SR20DE was 140 to 169hp from the factory, similar to the Lotus Sunbeam road car and they didn't have an LSD.
LSD's are more common on rally cars as they improve the traction big time, justifying their cost!




Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: kierbear on February 22, 2012, 08:40:17 AM
awesome, we definatly need to organise an avenger meet so i can see this!
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: kierbear on February 22, 2012, 08:41:43 AM
a guy asked me if i would sell me car to him, about a year ago, so he could do the same conversion. must be popular thing to do!
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on February 22, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
Has to be in April.

Need to get mine AND Richard's finished.

Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on February 22, 2012, 11:58:31 AM
Yeah we need to do another Avenger meet, we will have a lot of new projects to check out. Nikolai's new conversion, my fibreglass etc and Kiera's new paint job.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on April 20, 2012, 02:44:05 PM
Awesome. Hilux Diffs rock. LSD?

I used to have a Hilux LSD for the 3S-GE race car I was building. I had 4.3:1 and 4.5:1
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on April 20, 2012, 06:59:12 PM
Non-LSD as I don't have the budget (LSD is $1900+), and the LSD isn't really useful in this application as they require pre-load apparently.

Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on May 19, 2012, 02:08:25 PM
Kick ass brakes.

I am keen to help out with the towing in my Charger.

I am towing my Avenger to GT Refinishers on Tuesday so I will tow yours before that.

Mal won't know the place with both Avengers gone.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on May 20, 2012, 11:10:59 AM
Sounds like an awesome Avenger day! Will be some cool photos too with the Charger towing an Avenger... like a blast from the past :D
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: 79estate on May 21, 2012, 06:33:20 PM
So Keen for another Avenger meet, Keen 2 bring out the Van ae!!
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on June 14, 2012, 06:36:40 PM
Rear arches look sweet.

Totally different look than mine but they look really good.

Where did you get them done?

Love the bullet fender mirrors
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on June 14, 2012, 06:44:40 PM
Yeah! That's why I did that.

Got them done at M & M Panelbeaters in Eden Terrace, dropped off car on Monday, they started on Tuesday and I picked up at lunchtime today, so they don't mess around.

Yup they look good, need to adjust them etc to try and get some usability out of them!

Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: JoKer on June 14, 2012, 06:51:42 PM
looking sweet man : much work on the rears? primer leads to a hint of sheet metal work
Title: Re: My 1974, British, 1500 Super with SR20DE
Post by: 1600GLS on June 14, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
nissan are prone for the air flow meter crapping out which cause rough idle i had a pulsar which done it and mi dads bluebird done it
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: JoKer on June 14, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
nissan/subaru unplug it see if it runs a tad better
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on June 16, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
The rear panels were pushed out at the biggest point by around 4cm. They managed to do it with no sheet metal work at all, they didn't even grind off the seam welds. It was covered in primer only because there was major paint cracking.

Not too bothered about the primer, will be going for a full panel and paint by the end of the year anyway.

They're practically right next to work so will constantly be dropping it off to get all my panelling done in small (affordable) bits at a time.

Nah, unplugging the AFM results in the engine stopping. I think it's probably the TPS. It's also running a bit rich at the moment.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Mystro on June 18, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Would you like to sell me that dark coupe in the pic? haha you have 2 beautiful cars haha and i like the work uve done congrats
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on March 03, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Good to see some progress on it. Reminds me of how much I had to cut out of mine to make the wheels fit.

That pipe coming out of the side of the rocker just looks like the PCV (positive crankcase ventilation)

you don't really need it if that is the case. I just vent out to a catch tank. In both those photos they are just venting it back in to the intake over by the turbo.

I have never ran a PCV on my Avengers, it is too hard with dual carbs, plus I don't want to suck in oil in to my intake. My race car just vented to a powerade bottle and before I restored my '75 it just used to vent to the ground.

And the other cold start is just getting air from before the air flow meter, which is exactly what you are doing as long as that pipe connects before the airflow meter.

Try downloading a service manual and see if it has more on them.

you can download one here http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=206999 (http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=206999)
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on April 04, 2013, 07:32:00 PM
It looks really cool in yellow with the tinted windows.

Are you going to do any black stripes or anything? not like a Tiger stripes but something cool like the Chargers or Cudas had.

(http://www.shannons.com.au/library/images/auctions/RT85Q665E6EPB3R8/medium/1971-chrysler-valiant-charger-rt-e38-bathurst-coupe.jpg)

(http://www.imcdb.org/i083353.jpg)

(http://www.collectormotors.com/cars_sold/70aar/02.jpg)
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: oldschool on April 04, 2013, 10:54:22 PM
And that yellow tailpipe is particularly classy...lol
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on May 05, 2013, 09:48:34 PM
That looks awesome dude. can't wait to see it in person. Give me a yell when it is done and we will go for a cruise.

One suggestion, I would paint that allow radiator black, it stands out like dogs bullocks and ruins the look of the grille. Would like sweet with it all blacked out behind the grille.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on May 05, 2013, 10:23:20 PM
Yeah, definitely need to black that out, as it stands out far too much.

I think I will also put some fine black mesh (not repco mesh!) behind those air-vents underneath the grille.

Cruise is probably a June thing. I wanted to do it certed. I'm one of those. The fine for being caught will cost nearly as much as the cert :P





Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: JoKer on May 05, 2013, 10:48:59 PM
mean :P interesting mirrors~
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avengertiger on May 06, 2013, 04:30:25 PM
Lovely looks really well,are you going bumper less or black ones?
She is a looker now alright look forward to seeing it all finished off.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on May 06, 2013, 11:01:07 PM
Nah, I am going bumperless on the front. I prefer it as it gives it a meaner, tougher look - deserving of the engine inside :)

Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on December 15, 2013, 07:29:19 PM
Man, that looks so amazing in yellow and black with the big black wheels.

Great choice with the paint.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on December 15, 2013, 10:02:56 PM
Thanks. That must be the first photo I've got of it in the sun!

It's actually covered in a thick coating of dust; that is the first time it has left the storage which it's been sitting in for the last 7months+! Can't wait to see it all cleaned and polished.

Have been guaranteed that the surge tank setup will be completed by the end of the week, then will be time to get it running mint.

The Avenger hibernation has ended and I'm expecting some rapid progress in the next month.



Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on December 16, 2013, 12:10:58 AM
Awesome man.

I can't wait to see it in person.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: avenga on July 23, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
Hey Nikolai, you are going to have to stop posting pictures, you are making me too jealous :)

But seriously your avenger is looking so badass, keep up the good work and can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Nikolai's 1974, British, 1500 Super Discussion
Post by: Nikolai on July 23, 2014, 01:37:25 PM
Haha, thanks! Really appreciate that. :)

Today it's leaving the cage-factory and off to the panel beater.
Interior, door jams, seat-mounts etc will all be blacked out. Roll-cage will be painted yellow, same as the body.
Also lots of other little touch-ups: painting the bonnet underside black, painting the window-seal area in yellow, getting door-hinges refurbished to stop sagging doors etc.

Hopefully that doesn't take too long as then it's off for suspension after that! :)

Then finish exhuast (need to clear suspension mounts etc) and replace open-diff to LSD, then setup interior: dash, switches etc and then dyno tune + cert!

The end is near(ish). Engine-bay tidy-up has dropped off the list and will be done after cert; as well as a few other cosmetic things I want to do.