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Avenger Related => Technical => Topic started by: JoKer on December 18, 2018, 03:30:00 PM

Title: Car wont stay "ON"
Post by: JoKer on December 18, 2018, 03:30:00 PM
So drove to work yesterday, Parked all normal (over the Saddle Road)

went to go to lunch & hey that's weird

Car fires but wont 'run', heaps gas & sounds like its all fine until I return the key to On position, car dies

I realise it's fairly basic switching & wires but a little over my head if anyone can dumb it down for a wood worker

Started with the Ign switch inspection (thought it was main fault at first as a little wiggle caused the Alt light to blink)


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then tried a second hand unit with exactly the same results, starts but doenst run

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so I'm a bit stumped, checked fuel in line, car runs good with the key in starter position (can rev it a little bit & don't want to wreck starter etc)
more pics & Diagrams & maybe I've answered own question with the manual?

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Ballast resistor? And I'm running Electronic ignition from a later model

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so other than the chances of the second ign switch having same fault (unlikely) which most obvious Sparky boi have I over looked"?

Internal guts of the ign switch are fairly simple too only one contact covering 1/5 > 3/2

1 : to Starter motor
2 : Acc
3 : Dash
5: (labelled it 4 on sticker) is main feed from Battery
Title: Re: Car wont stay "ON"
Post by: TheMechanicnz on December 18, 2018, 07:05:31 PM
My guess is the ballast resistor. Can cause all kinds of funny things to happen.
Title: Re: Car wont stay "ON"
Post by: JoKer on December 19, 2018, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: TheMechanicnz on December 18, 2018, 07:05:31 PM
My guess is the ballast resistor. Can cause all kinds of funny things to happen.

BINGO

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Chapter 4.


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(hoping this info may help someone here one day & not just me making noise : been a points man since 1997 > 2017)

so I whip out me multi meter

Check a spare I found, low

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High

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one in the car same test : Low

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Nothing

High

(http://imgur.com/dtVDMx6l.png)

Confirmed!

Plug in spare block & it fires up instantly

Any clues to why or how it failed other than "they do that"

was weird how it ran when parked : then dead

[SOLVED]
Title: Re: Car wont stay "ON"
Post by: JoKer on December 19, 2018, 10:57:03 AM
also obviously the multi meter has read different figures to what I was expecting (from the Diagram / written on the side, is it ok to run this block? Or will it let the smoke out too?