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The Dodge 1500 / 1800 / Polara rebadged Hillman / Chrysler Avenger

Started by JoKer, May 20, 2019, 04:25:00 PM

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SO yeah we know they Rebadged & continued Making Avengers around the world


From Wiki : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillman_Avenger




 



and more from : https://www.allpar.com/cars/adopted/rootes/dodge-1800-polara.html


seem to be a Mix of Twin headlights (GLS) and Chrysler (Mk3 / series 8) Avenger's coming up in tags & image searches



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the Dodge GT100

www.testdelayer.com.ar/dodge1500gt100.htm

english copy / paste ;

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QuoteDodge 1500 GT-100 - 1977

truly empowered

Corsa Magazine No. 578. June 1977

Dodge 1500GT100

We put it through every conceivable test. After more than five thousand kilometers traveled, its virtues and defects began to appear. Here we take stock and draw our conclusions from this powerful and nervous Dodge GT 100 with 1,800 cm3, 170 real km/h and acceleration worthy of a larger engine.

Write down, analyze and make your personal balance

Chrysler made no secret of its intentions. They were clear, obvious. A manager of the company said it bluntly: "The line of fifteen hundred needed a version with a 1.8 engine that had more nerve, more spirit and also because we have been interested in the highest category of National Tourism for a long time and only now, with this GT 100 we will be able to do it and with possibilities" .

To achieve its goal, Chrysler must manufacture -and certify accordingly- more than a thousand units of this new GT 100 that who knows why it is still called "1500" when in fact it is an 1800 cm3. But in addition to manufacturing them you have to sell them and that has also been thought of by the people at Chrysler.

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There's a market. There is a group of people looking for good final speed. Acceleration. Reprise. Agility and maneuverability in the everyday car. For them, or rather to them, this model was directed that contemplates all these virtues.

Dodge 1500GT100

Well-designed manifolds, two Stromberg (SU-type) carburetors, more compression and a cam that pulls up, were some of the modifications that the factory engineers introduced in the 1.8 engine looking for more power to reach the 120 HP SAE that they declare in the presentation brochures.
Outwardly there is nothing new. The painting, of somewhat dubious taste, identifies him on the streets. It is only offered (for now) in black and dark blue trimmed in gold -inspiration or copy of the JPS Lotus?- and with a huge acronym on both sides that read "GT-100". Neither additional headlights, nor spoilers in bad taste, nor excessively wide tires appear as elements to achieve another image of this, the latest product launched by Chrysler.

First impressions

Once seated behind the wheel, the fact that everything there is black stands out. The upholstery of the seats, the carpet, the console that separates the front seats, the interior panels, the visor of the dashboard... everything is black. And therefore, according to our criteria, in good taste.

Dodge 1500 GT-100

The chair is comfortable, it has several adjustment points for both the seat and the backrest and the shape is anatomical. On the other hand, corduroy (or simile corduroy) makes it cozy and prevents your back from perspiring more than it should. The steering wheel is too small in diameter and is placed quite low, meaning that in the case of people over 1.80 meters tall and with long legs, the thighs, in the area close to the knee, will touch the steering wheel. It is also difficult to maneuver to park. The board is very complete. Pointers everywhere and in the case of fuel, oil pressure and alternator, assisted by warning lights. An example for most car factories in the country.

The design is good, easy to read and has a blue-green hue that makes them very visible and pleasant when traveling at night. The rearview mirror is wide and the external one is well placed. The pedalboard is normal, smoothly actuated, although between the accelerator and the brake there is a long distance and it is impossible to tip and heel.
Once underway you can see that the suspension is what we call "stiff". Very nice for the happy ride and turning hard with little roll, but very restless on cobblestones or on uneven roads. The rear axle is dislodged and you have to correct it with the steering wheel and accelerator all the time. He is jumpy and does not copy irregularities well.

When one has gotten the hang of the reactions of the GT 100, the secondary intention is, inevitably, to put the pedal to the metal between changes to check its 120 HP declared. And they appear, there is no doubt. Of course, no one can be sure if they are 120 or 118 HP, but they are there and that is not a story. Below, starting from 2,000 rpm , a certain slowness in climbing is noted, but above 3,500 rpm it begins to push without joke until reaching 6,000 rpm and staying established at 5,600 / 5,700 direct laps, which are 170 real km/h.

It is precisely at that point where most of its virtues are pointed; his engine. Because it works correctly, without trepidation, smoothly, even when traveling at high speeds. The only problem is the "choking" of the carburetors when subjected to a sudden throttle in second or third at low speed. They usually produce an unpleasant cough that leaves you paying in an emergency due to the lack of a spike pump. To normalize this inconvenience, the most logical thing is to always take it in turns, that is, above 3,000, where the engine works with a perfect mixture of air - gasoline.

Dodge 1500GT100
Braking tests in "our private Sol

JoKer

Quote
CONCLUSIONS

Pro

Excellent acceleration.

Optimum final speed for a 1,800 cm3 engine.

Instrumental easy to read and very complete.

Combined type seat belts.

External rear view mirror.

Parking light (beacon).

Little roll in both slow and fast corners.

Effective gear staggering.

Low consumption en route at high speeds.

Very maneuverable in traffic and winding roads.

Cons

Zapateando of the rear train in sudden braking or with uneven floor.

Tires not suitable for the performance of the car.

High consumption in the city. It does not reach 5 km per liter.

Carburetors stall at low speed.

Inadequate gearbox selector. First and reverse gear are easily confused.

Paint and exterior decoration of questionable taste.

Inelastic engine.

Difficult held en route, especially directional.

Small diameter steering wheel.

Final score: 80.00

MAXIMUM SPEED 169,830 KM/H
Average of the two best passes in the opposite direction

ACCELERATION

0-40km/h

2.8s
0-60km/h

4.9s
0-80km/h

7.9s
0-100km/h

11.5s
0-120km/h

15.6s
0-140km/h

23.3s
0-160km/h

32.7s
40-60km/h

7.9s
40-80km/h

13.3s
40-100km/h

19.2s
40-120km/h

25.3s
40-140km/h

32.7s

CONSUMPTION

speed
l/100km

40km/h

9.2
60km/h

8.6
80km/h

8.3
100km/h

9.2
120km/h

10.4
140km/h

13.1
Urban

26.4
SPEED EVERY 1,000 RPM
RPM   March   Speed
1000   
Yo
8.74km/h
1000   
II
14.30 Km/h
1000   
III
21.19 Km/h
1000   
IV
29.03 Km/h

BRAKING DISTANCE
speed   Total
40km/h - 0   15.20m
60km/h - 0   25.42m
80km/h - 0   37.90m
100Km/h-0   48.90m
120Km/h-0   71.45m

SPEEDOMETER ERROR

Indicated speed   actual speed
40   39.6
60   59
80   78
100   96.3
120   113.2
140   133.3

View of the two Stromberg carburetors that feed the GT-100's engine. They work correctly above, but the same does not happen at low speed


Very small diameter steering wheel that makes parking difficult. The board is ten points



Heat exchanger

The new Dodge GT-100 has a heat exchanger system between the lubrication circuit and the water circuit. In the Dodge 1500 GT-90, the cooling system of the lubrication system was made through a small oil radiator that was located in the lower part of the water radiator (attached to it). In this new model that concerns us, the solution adopted is considered to be applicable to highly engineered cars. As for example we can say that the Mercedes Benz models are among the few that adopted the heat exchanger system.
The engine lubricant is circulated through a pipe that is inside the lower tank of the radiator, that is, the coolant is in contact with the pipes through which the oil circulates. In this way, when the engine is started up, while it is cold, the hot oil transfers the heat to the water, causing it to acquire the ideal operating temperature more quickly; when, conversely, the water acquires the normal temperature of the engine, it acts as an oil coolant. In this way, the two cooling elements work in unison with the appropriate temperatures for proper engine operation.

Dodge 1500 GT-100



Technical characteristics
Engine

4 cylinders in line. 1,798 cm3 (86.1mm x 77.2mm). Compression ratio: 8.9:1 Maximum power 120 HP SAE at 5,300 rpm Maximum torque 16.5 Kgm at 4,200 rpm

Feeding
Two horizontal Stromberg 175 CD 3 VS carburettors

oil cooling
By heat exchanger

Transmission
4-speed gearbox. Lever to the floor. Ratios 1st 3.32:1 2nd 2.03:1 3rd 1.37:1 4th 1.00:1 MA 3.45:1 Rear axle: 3.73:1 Dry single-disc type clutch and diaphragm. Diameter 21.5 cm.
Brakes

Self-regulating hydraulics. Disc forwards. Rear tape and drum.

Front Suspension
Independent McPherson type with coil springs and hydraulic shock absorbers. Anti roll bar.
Rear Suspension
Rigid axle. Helical springs and hydraulic shock absorbers. Four reactor bars.

Address
Rack and pinion. Turning radius 4.24m. Safety articulated steering column. Ratio 17.6:1 3.6 turns lock to lock.
Electrical installation
Battery 48Ah 12V
Dimensions
Length 414 cm Width 158 cm Height 135 cm Wheelbase 248.9 cm Front track 129.5 cm Rear track 103.2 cm Weight 960 Kg. Engine lubricant capacity 3.6 Lts Engine coolant 7.4 Lts Fuel tank 45 Lts.
see also

Dodge 1500

Road Test of the Dodge 1500 : http://www.testdelayer.com.ar/pruebas/dodge-1500.htm
Corsa Magazine Nro 285. October 1971

Dodge 1500 Automatic

Road Test of the Dodge 1500 Automatic : http://www.testdelayer.com.ar/dodge1500aut.htm
Corsa Magazine Nro 463. April 1975

Dodge 1500M 1.8

Road Test of the Dodge 1500 M 1.8 : http://www.testdelayer.com.ar/dodge150018.htm
Corsa Magazine No. 481 of August 1975

JoKer

Some tid-bits from a FB conversatoon today :

QuoteAVENGER AND SUNBEAM RALLY AND RACE CARS
Bill Robertson  ?

I am trying to get my head around the Avenger in Brazil, production from 1971 to 1981 when the Dodge Polara production was stopped when Chrysler pulled out of Brazil.
Some Dodge Polara cars were also sold In Portugal.
The engine was a 1800cc and Des Odell had some blocks brought over and he fitted a longer stroke crankshaft to take it up to 2 ltr, but they were only sold for rallying, but that stopped when the Lotus Sunbeam was launched.
I built my rally car in 1976 and sold it in 1978. I was a friend of Allan Conoly who rallied the first BRM I think in 1978, but never heard of a 1.8 ltr or 2 ltr rally engine.
So if they were around in the UK does anyone have any engine parts, I have a Brazilian head buy now I don?t know if it came off a 1.8 or 2 ltr.
Thoughts anyone

Source link : https://www.facebook.com/groups/414269188750469/posts/2529328977244469/

and replies (in no particular order)

QuoteNiall Keane
They were taller blocks with a longer stroke. All 1800 to start with were made just shy of 2 litre with 90mm bore.

QuoteRichard Troop
I'm same theory as Niall Keane and its info taken from a magazine article titled "avenger brm born under a bad sign"
the increased cc was done by boring to 90mm
1800 was achieved by the longer crank and taller block to compensate for brazils poor quality fuel hence their 1800 only giving same power as our 1600 ....
But then wernt reliable as a 2ltr brm due to longer stroke not liking the high rpm and throwing conrods out
If this was so 🤔🤔
How are the new breed of brm engines not throwing rods ?

QuoteJonathan Charles
Richard Troop the 2.0 BRM engines around competing at the moment are jondel built and are very different including there Brazilians 8v and share little internally to the standard Brazilian and also D.A.D/grp2 that I have.